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		<title>By: Geoff Robinson</title>
		<link>http://possumcomitatus.wordpress.com/2007/07/14/margin-of-terror/#comment-284</link>
		<dc:creator>Geoff Robinson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jul 2007 02:30:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think Labor is picking up at both ends of the spectrum; high-income professional managerial types in the private sector (issue here is not green left themes (contra swio) but Howard looking old and Rudd safe, broadband global warming etc.) (is the GG hysteria an attempt to hold this group?); low income manual and clerical/service workers (WorkChoices etc.). There have always been plenty of low-income rural conservative voters, but they have become softer for the right (agree with Robert Bollard), in 1998 some of their votes came to Labor via Hanson, but now perhaps they are shifting directly. Andrew Leigh’s research shows a secular drift to Labor among low income voters.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Labor is picking up at both ends of the spectrum; high-income professional managerial types in the private sector (issue here is not green left themes (contra swio) but Howard looking old and Rudd safe, broadband global warming etc.) (is the GG hysteria an attempt to hold this group?); low income manual and clerical/service workers (WorkChoices etc.). There have always been plenty of low-income rural conservative voters, but they have become softer for the right (agree with Robert Bollard), in 1998 some of their votes came to Labor via Hanson, but now perhaps they are shifting directly. Andrew Leigh’s research shows a secular drift to Labor among low income voters.</p>
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		<title>By: Possum Comitatus</title>
		<link>http://possumcomitatus.wordpress.com/2007/07/14/margin-of-terror/#comment-282</link>
		<dc:creator>Possum Comitatus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jul 2007 01:50:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AB, 
        I’m glad you like the movie references, I was hoping that they’d be picked up. There’s lots of headline fodder in the history of cinema.

Last weeks nonsense in The Oz was interesting, as is the sudden media “realisation” of the state of the polls. Now these polls haven’t changed in 6 months, why suddenly have the usual suspects started pointing at the naked emperor, and why weren’t they for the last 12 polling cycles?

Last weeks fairly widespread blog assault on the reality of the polls and the fantasy world of some journos may well have thrown a big bucket of cold water over the collective orthodoxy of the Canberra press gallery. At least insofar as they might now be a little more wary of the ability of the hated “online commentariat” to make them look like dills in front of a large and growing audience when they carry on with pure piffle unsupported by observable reality. I’ve noticed Ace Stenographer has taken off his nylon cape and unitard to adopt a double breasted suit – his recent couple of columns were all very “just the facts ma’am”. 

Thanks for the congrats, and congrats to you AB. Congrats to everyone , RTS, LP, Pollbludger, Ozpolitics, Mumble, Crikey, the many many other sites and the readers of those sites that reacted when the pollyweb collectively went “What a load of horseshit”.

Let us hope it is a sign of things to come.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AB,<br />
        I’m glad you like the movie references, I was hoping that they’d be picked up. There’s lots of headline fodder in the history of cinema.</p>
<p>Last weeks nonsense in The Oz was interesting, as is the sudden media “realisation” of the state of the polls. Now these polls haven’t changed in 6 months, why suddenly have the usual suspects started pointing at the naked emperor, and why weren’t they for the last 12 polling cycles?</p>
<p>Last weeks fairly widespread blog assault on the reality of the polls and the fantasy world of some journos may well have thrown a big bucket of cold water over the collective orthodoxy of the Canberra press gallery. At least insofar as they might now be a little more wary of the ability of the hated “online commentariat” to make them look like dills in front of a large and growing audience when they carry on with pure piffle unsupported by observable reality. I’ve noticed Ace Stenographer has taken off his nylon cape and unitard to adopt a double breasted suit – his recent couple of columns were all very “just the facts ma’am”. </p>
<p>Thanks for the congrats, and congrats to you AB. Congrats to everyone , RTS, LP, Pollbludger, Ozpolitics, Mumble, Crikey, the many many other sites and the readers of those sites that reacted when the pollyweb collectively went “What a load of horseshit”.</p>
<p>Let us hope it is a sign of things to come.</p>
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		<title>By: swio</title>
		<link>http://possumcomitatus.wordpress.com/2007/07/14/margin-of-terror/#comment-276</link>
		<dc:creator>swio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jul 2007 22:26:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This weakness in the co-alition heartland needs explaination.

Is it the effect of Workchoices? Its unlikely coalition voters are personally worse off but are they worried about its effect on their children?

The environment, particularly global warming? Has Howard&#039;s global warming policy failed to convince co-altion voters?

Perhaps its Howard&#039;s social conservatism. Howard has been able to grab Labor heartland votes by appealing to xenophobia and bashing sub-groups, but perhaps its coming back to bite him by putting off his own wealthier and more educated wet Liberals. We know that things like David Hicks were killing him with this group. 

Has the Petro Georgio section of the electorate switched to Rudd? You don&#039;t hear about them much in the commentary but they are a big enough group to explain these numbers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This weakness in the co-alition heartland needs explaination.</p>
<p>Is it the effect of Workchoices? Its unlikely coalition voters are personally worse off but are they worried about its effect on their children?</p>
<p>The environment, particularly global warming? Has Howard&#8217;s global warming policy failed to convince co-altion voters?</p>
<p>Perhaps its Howard&#8217;s social conservatism. Howard has been able to grab Labor heartland votes by appealing to xenophobia and bashing sub-groups, but perhaps its coming back to bite him by putting off his own wealthier and more educated wet Liberals. We know that things like David Hicks were killing him with this group. </p>
<p>Has the Petro Georgio section of the electorate switched to Rudd? You don&#8217;t hear about them much in the commentary but they are a big enough group to explain these numbers.</p>
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		<title>By: steve</title>
		<link>http://possumcomitatus.wordpress.com/2007/07/14/margin-of-terror/#comment-275</link>
		<dc:creator>steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jul 2007 10:49:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I heard that the Queensland Libs are thinking of rolling the State leader this week.  A good burst of infighting on the eve of any election is always par for the course with Queensland Libs.  Who knows who the next scapegoat will be if Flegg is rolled but I hope they manage to make your figures look conservative.

The whole fiasco should be good for a further drop in the Conservative primary vote in Queensland.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I heard that the Queensland Libs are thinking of rolling the State leader this week.  A good burst of infighting on the eve of any election is always par for the course with Queensland Libs.  Who knows who the next scapegoat will be if Flegg is rolled but I hope they manage to make your figures look conservative.</p>
<p>The whole fiasco should be good for a further drop in the Conservative primary vote in Queensland.</p>
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		<title>By: michael</title>
		<link>http://possumcomitatus.wordpress.com/2007/07/14/margin-of-terror/#comment-271</link>
		<dc:creator>michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jul 2007 07:47:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Outstanding analysis Possum! But, really it is really an over engineered response to the question of whether the Libs are on the nose. 

Whether it adds to the sum total of knowledge is debatable. 

The Lib supporters who follow the blogs are either disbelieving of the numbers, convinced that the community won&#039;t let the PM down when it comes to the crunch on vote day or expect some policy or event to resonate so much with the electorate to act as a circuit breaker to turn the &quot;ship&quot; around.

Personally, I think the age of the PM, Work Choices and the rises in interest rates since the last election are driving the polls.

Can the Libs get out of this hole. Not without a change of leadership in the next few days!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Outstanding analysis Possum! But, really it is really an over engineered response to the question of whether the Libs are on the nose. </p>
<p>Whether it adds to the sum total of knowledge is debatable. </p>
<p>The Lib supporters who follow the blogs are either disbelieving of the numbers, convinced that the community won&#8217;t let the PM down when it comes to the crunch on vote day or expect some policy or event to resonate so much with the electorate to act as a circuit breaker to turn the &#8220;ship&#8221; around.</p>
<p>Personally, I think the age of the PM, Work Choices and the rises in interest rates since the last election are driving the polls.</p>
<p>Can the Libs get out of this hole. Not without a change of leadership in the next few days!</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Bollard</title>
		<link>http://possumcomitatus.wordpress.com/2007/07/14/margin-of-terror/#comment-268</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Bollard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jul 2007 03:26:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The regional swing bears some comparison with the Victorian election in 1999.  There an assault on the rural Liberal heartland won an election for Labor where it made little impact on the traditionally swinging seats in the Eastern suburbs.  There are differences of course - not the least that the coming Ruddslide would include suburban marginals.  But Workchoices would clearly be a factor if 1999 is any indicator.  The working class in country towns wre given a sharp does of neoliberalism under Kennett.  Unionised, for the most part, they were even less able to resist Keennett&#039;s attacks and turned on the Liberals in the election.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The regional swing bears some comparison with the Victorian election in 1999.  There an assault on the rural Liberal heartland won an election for Labor where it made little impact on the traditionally swinging seats in the Eastern suburbs.  There are differences of course &#8211; not the least that the coming Ruddslide would include suburban marginals.  But Workchoices would clearly be a factor if 1999 is any indicator.  The working class in country towns wre given a sharp does of neoliberalism under Kennett.  Unionised, for the most part, they were even less able to resist Keennett&#8217;s attacks and turned on the Liberals in the election.</p>
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		<title>By: barney</title>
		<link>http://possumcomitatus.wordpress.com/2007/07/14/margin-of-terror/#comment-267</link>
		<dc:creator>barney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jul 2007 01:17:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Love your work.
Excellent analysis.
The only thing that might upset the apple cart in the Margin of Terror might be a new Committee of Public Safety scare. Let&#039;s hope Robespierre Howard reverses history and goes to the guillotine before Danton Rudd. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Love your work.<br />
Excellent analysis.<br />
The only thing that might upset the apple cart in the Margin of Terror might be a new Committee of Public Safety scare. Let&#8217;s hope Robespierre Howard reverses history and goes to the guillotine before Danton Rudd. <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Stilgherrian &#183; John Howard&#8217;s &#8220;Margin of Terror&#8221;</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stilgherrian &#183; John Howard&#8217;s &#8220;Margin of Terror&#8221;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jul 2007 01:02:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] to an analysis at Possums Pollytics, the latest polls show a 14% swing to Labor in safe Coalition electorates. That means in the [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] to an analysis at Possums Pollytics, the latest polls show a 14% swing to Labor in safe Coalition electorates. That means in the [...]</p>
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		<title>By: sondeo de opinion</title>
		<link>http://possumcomitatus.wordpress.com/2007/07/14/margin-of-terror/#comment-263</link>
		<dc:creator>sondeo de opinion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jul 2007 13:14:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not a comment as such Possum,but you do a fantastic job of explaining the polls without the bullshit.Thanks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not a comment as such Possum,but you do a fantastic job of explaining the polls without the bullshit.Thanks</p>
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		<title>By: watt</title>
		<link>http://possumcomitatus.wordpress.com/2007/07/14/margin-of-terror/#comment-262</link>
		<dc:creator>watt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jul 2007 12:32:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not a comment, just thanking you yet again for your riveting work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not a comment, just thanking you yet again for your riveting work.</p>
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