Comments on: Antony’s New Toys http://possumcomitatus.wordpress.com/2007/11/05/antonys-new-toys/ Politics, elections and piffle plinking Sat, 24 Oct 2009 07:41:53 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: Peachy http://possumcomitatus.wordpress.com/2007/11/05/antonys-new-toys/#comment-3607 Peachy Mon, 05 Nov 2007 23:35:37 +0000 http://possumcomitatus.wordpress.com/2007/11/05/antonys-new-toys/#comment-3607 Shame about the 'Fishing Party', I'm a mad keen fly fisherman myself, and I am deeply concerned with environmental issues and climate change, as are many other keen fisherman that I know. Fishing has changed a lot in the last 10-20 years, the 'rape and pillage' mentality just isn't out there much any more, the norm these days is catch and release, or keep only what you will eat (personally i catch and release). There are exceptions of course, but i don't think that fisho's in general are the bunch of right-wing slash-and-burn climate change deniers that the 'Fishing Party' seems to represent. Certainly fishermen are deeply concerned about dwindling fish stocks due to - you guessed it - environmental issues and over-fishing by the commercial sector. Personally I see green issues and recreational fishing issues as being closely aligned in many ways, the major sticking point for fishos is the marine parks, and the feeling that they are being locked out of areas that they previously fished sustainably. There is also frustration on the other hand that commercial fisherman seem to be given a far higher priority in decision making by government than the recreational sector, and that rec fishos are being locked out of areas because of overfishing by the pros. It's a shame that the Fishing Party seems to be just a partisan front for the Libs rather than a true independent party. Certainly won't be getting my vote! Shame about the ‘Fishing Party’, I’m a mad keen fly fisherman myself, and I am deeply concerned with environmental issues and climate change, as are many other keen fisherman that I know. Fishing has changed a lot in the last 10-20 years, the ‘rape and pillage’ mentality just isn’t out there much any more, the norm these days is catch and release, or keep only what you will eat (personally i catch and release).

There are exceptions of course, but i don’t think that fisho’s in general are the bunch of right-wing slash-and-burn climate change deniers that the ‘Fishing Party’ seems to represent. Certainly fishermen are deeply concerned about dwindling fish stocks due to – you guessed it – environmental issues and over-fishing by the commercial sector. Personally I see green issues and recreational fishing issues as being closely aligned in many ways, the major sticking point for fishos is the marine parks, and the feeling that they are being locked out of areas that they previously fished sustainably. There is also frustration on the other hand that commercial fisherman seem to be given a far higher priority in decision making by government than the recreational sector, and that rec fishos are being locked out of areas because of overfishing by the pros.

It’s a shame that the Fishing Party seems to be just a partisan front for the Libs rather than a true independent party. Certainly won’t be getting my vote!

]]> By: Stilgherrian · For fuck’s sake, can we vote yet? http://possumcomitatus.wordpress.com/2007/11/05/antonys-new-toys/#comment-3603 Stilgherrian · For fuck’s sake, can we vote yet? Mon, 05 Nov 2007 22:29:03 +0000 http://possumcomitatus.wordpress.com/2007/11/05/antonys-new-toys/#comment-3603 [...] Today Possums Pollytics punches the last 14 polls into Antony’s election calculator — and gets a clear win for Labor every time. [...] [...] Today Possums Pollytics punches the last 14 polls into Antony’s election calculator — and gets a clear win for Labor every time. [...]

]]> By: Stephen Tardrew http://possumcomitatus.wordpress.com/2007/11/05/antonys-new-toys/#comment-3597 Stephen Tardrew Mon, 05 Nov 2007 21:21:33 +0000 http://possumcomitatus.wordpress.com/2007/11/05/antonys-new-toys/#comment-3597 Could some of you stats doods gives us plebs some percentages to slot into Anton's Senate Calculator: even a variety of opinions would help. Could some of you stats doods gives us plebs some percentages to slot into Anton’s Senate Calculator: even a variety of opinions would help.

]]> By: Tad http://possumcomitatus.wordpress.com/2007/11/05/antonys-new-toys/#comment-3595 Tad Mon, 05 Nov 2007 19:42:51 +0000 http://possumcomitatus.wordpress.com/2007/11/05/antonys-new-toys/#comment-3595 I've run a few scenarios on the NSW senate calculator where the Greens do a little worse than last time, Labor polls very well (better than the national average, as would be suggested by Newspoll state-by-states), the left-right split favours Labor more than the national average and the micros run similar to last time but a little squeezed and I keep getting the Liberty and Democracy Party in 6th after a tussle with the Greens. Are they the fallback for Glen Drury if the Fishers don't come through? I’ve run a few scenarios on the NSW senate calculator where the Greens do a little worse than last time, Labor polls very well (better than the national average, as would be suggested by Newspoll state-by-states), the left-right split favours Labor more than the national average and the micros run similar to last time but a little squeezed and I keep getting the Liberty and Democracy Party in 6th after a tussle with the Greens. Are they the fallback for Glen Drury if the Fishers don’t come through?

]]> By: middle man http://possumcomitatus.wordpress.com/2007/11/05/antonys-new-toys/#comment-3591 middle man Mon, 05 Nov 2007 12:03:51 +0000 http://possumcomitatus.wordpress.com/2007/11/05/antonys-new-toys/#comment-3591 oh ok. Thanks. Newspoll seem to be getting a bit on the nose around the place anyhow... it's odd how a bad series of numbers can really damage a polls reputation. Tough business. Poor ole Morgan doesn't get much respect in the MSM. oh ok. Thanks. Newspoll seem to be getting a bit on the nose around the place anyhow… it’s odd how a bad series of numbers can really damage a polls reputation. Tough business. Poor ole Morgan doesn’t get much respect in the MSM.

]]> By: George http://possumcomitatus.wordpress.com/2007/11/05/antonys-new-toys/#comment-3590 George Mon, 05 Nov 2007 12:01:04 +0000 http://possumcomitatus.wordpress.com/2007/11/05/antonys-new-toys/#comment-3590 sorry middle man, I wasn't clear there - he meant it in terms of the "movement" from the previous newspoll sorry middle man, I wasn’t clear there – he meant it in terms of the “movement” from the previous newspoll

]]> By: middle man http://possumcomitatus.wordpress.com/2007/11/05/antonys-new-toys/#comment-3589 middle man Mon, 05 Nov 2007 11:59:27 +0000 http://possumcomitatus.wordpress.com/2007/11/05/antonys-new-toys/#comment-3589 "not statistically significant" - Antony Green Why's that? Small sample?? “not statistically significant” – Antony Green

Why’s that? Small sample??

]]> By: adam http://possumcomitatus.wordpress.com/2007/11/05/antonys-new-toys/#comment-3588 adam Mon, 05 Nov 2007 11:48:08 +0000 http://possumcomitatus.wordpress.com/2007/11/05/antonys-new-toys/#comment-3588 hi all thanks for the tip regards the senate calculator, poss, had fun playing about with it. given my recent trip, it was interesting seeing just how far nick xenophon might go... seems unlikely given the ticketing issues etc but if he pulled in his 20% he would drag another senator with him at 6th... interesting times. only needs around 8% to get his own place. certainly the SA upper house is one to watch - balance of power, anyone? hi all
thanks for the tip regards the senate calculator, poss, had fun playing about with it. given my recent trip, it was interesting seeing just how far nick xenophon might go… seems unlikely given the ticketing issues etc but if he pulled in his 20% he would drag another senator with him at 6th… interesting times. only needs around 8% to get his own place. certainly the SA upper house is one to watch – balance of power, anyone?

]]> By: George http://possumcomitatus.wordpress.com/2007/11/05/antonys-new-toys/#comment-3587 George Mon, 05 Nov 2007 11:37:12 +0000 http://possumcomitatus.wordpress.com/2007/11/05/antonys-new-toys/#comment-3587 Antony's on Lateline - some real widsom on the latest newspoll: "not statistically significant" Antony’s on Lateline – some real widsom on the latest newspoll: “not statistically significant”

]]> By: Suspected Illegal Entry Vessel XI http://possumcomitatus.wordpress.com/2007/11/05/antonys-new-toys/#comment-3586 Suspected Illegal Entry Vessel XI Mon, 05 Nov 2007 11:33:41 +0000 http://possumcomitatus.wordpress.com/2007/11/05/antonys-new-toys/#comment-3586 ‘scuse me hignorance cap'n but when I hinterupted me game of northern beach cricket (on a deserted strand across the briny from Ashmore reef) and took a squiz at the Vic senate tickets I expected to see the Greens tickets with Labour in 2nd place as part of their preference deal, but ALP are down in the scuppers. Is the deal that labour is simply ahead of that bunch of superannuated cabin boys the Libs? ‘scuse me hignorance cap’n but when I hinterupted me game of northern beach cricket (on a deserted strand across the briny from Ashmore reef) and took a squiz at the Vic senate tickets I expected to see the Greens tickets with Labour in 2nd place as part of their preference deal, but ALP are down in the scuppers. Is the deal that labour is simply ahead of that bunch of superannuated cabin boys the Libs?

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