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		<title>By: Ron Brown</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ron Brown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Nov 2007 00:21:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>POSSUM
The cumulative Newspoll data IS old info and is the average of the last 2 polls BUT the &#039;oz&#039; are showing THIS averaged result AGAINST respective previous 2 successive Newspoll averaged results

which provides a trend

Would like feedback , but my view of this &quot;cumulative&quot; polling methodology is it completely camoflages the  &#039;narrowing&#039; during an election because

9/11 -10/11  poll           56 -44  2PP
16/11-17/11 poll            54 -46  2PP
BUT cumulative of both   55- 45 2PP

I think the 54 -46 is more realistic as it IS the latest Poll and reflects voters FIRMING UP their votes based on current campaign info ?????????????

I admit a cumulative &#039;trend&#039; can be deduced but so can a trend be deduced by comparing numerous SUCCESSIVE polls

Any thoughts ????</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>POSSUM<br />
The cumulative Newspoll data IS old info and is the average of the last 2 polls BUT the &#8216;oz&#8217; are showing THIS averaged result AGAINST respective previous 2 successive Newspoll averaged results</p>
<p>which provides a trend</p>
<p>Would like feedback , but my view of this &#8220;cumulative&#8221; polling methodology is it completely camoflages the  &#8216;narrowing&#8217; during an election because</p>
<p>9/11 -10/11  poll           56 -44  2PP<br />
16/11-17/11 poll            54 -46  2PP<br />
BUT cumulative of both   55- 45 2PP</p>
<p>I think the 54 -46 is more realistic as it IS the latest Poll and reflects voters FIRMING UP their votes based on current campaign info ?????????????</p>
<p>I admit a cumulative &#8216;trend&#8217; can be deduced but so can a trend be deduced by comparing numerous SUCCESSIVE polls</p>
<p>Any thoughts ????</p>
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		<title>By: Rod</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rod</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2007 23:42:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As Christian Kerr notes in this morning&#039;s election Crikey, Labor have to be a bit careful how they handle the Kelly Gang pamphlet.  

Very regrettably there are many Australians who undoubtedly &quot;buy&quot; the message intended by the pamphlet&#039;s distribution. The ALP need to be careful that they don&#039;t give the actual content of the thing too much air.  If they want to take the matter further prior to the election  they should l broaden the exposure to include other &quot;dirty tricks&quot; used in the campaign by the libs - like the poor bloke I was listening to on the radio this morning who gets portrayed as a &quot;union thug&quot; in the Libs TV advertising, but who hasn&#039;t even been employed by one for over a decade, wasn&#039;t in any sense a &quot;thug&quot; when he was,  and who, in the mean time has been doing stuff for that terrible threat to Australians everywhere, St Vincent de Paul.

But better to not get diverted by such things, I reckon. Staying &quot;on message&quot; is the way to go.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As Christian Kerr notes in this morning&#8217;s election Crikey, Labor have to be a bit careful how they handle the Kelly Gang pamphlet.  </p>
<p>Very regrettably there are many Australians who undoubtedly &#8220;buy&#8221; the message intended by the pamphlet&#8217;s distribution. The ALP need to be careful that they don&#8217;t give the actual content of the thing too much air.  If they want to take the matter further prior to the election  they should l broaden the exposure to include other &#8220;dirty tricks&#8221; used in the campaign by the libs &#8211; like the poor bloke I was listening to on the radio this morning who gets portrayed as a &#8220;union thug&#8221; in the Libs TV advertising, but who hasn&#8217;t even been employed by one for over a decade, wasn&#8217;t in any sense a &#8220;thug&#8221; when he was,  and who, in the mean time has been doing stuff for that terrible threat to Australians everywhere, St Vincent de Paul.</p>
<p>But better to not get diverted by such things, I reckon. Staying &#8220;on message&#8221; is the way to go.</p>
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		<title>By: Cat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2007 23:32:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To be fair I think the effect will be neutral. When a dog whistle is blown no matter how much the humans might argue that it should not have been blown the dog still hears and responds to it. On the upside I think this will be the final straw for the &quot;doctor&#039;s wives&quot; in the safer liberal electorates where there is a stronger swing than in the marginals like Lindsay. Ican just imagine Shrek&#039;s colourful language on hearing of it.
BTW I was listening to Jackie Kelly&#039;s initial comments being replayed on NewsRadio when it was interrupted because the PM had rung in. To say he sounded flat is being generous. I contained my desire to cry on his behalf - just :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To be fair I think the effect will be neutral. When a dog whistle is blown no matter how much the humans might argue that it should not have been blown the dog still hears and responds to it. On the upside I think this will be the final straw for the &#8220;doctor&#8217;s wives&#8221; in the safer liberal electorates where there is a stronger swing than in the marginals like Lindsay. Ican just imagine Shrek&#8217;s colourful language on hearing of it.<br />
BTW I was listening to Jackie Kelly&#8217;s initial comments being replayed on NewsRadio when it was interrupted because the PM had rung in. To say he sounded flat is being generous. I contained my desire to cry on his behalf &#8211; just <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Ivan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ivan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2007 23:23:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Watching Penny Wong vs. Ancrew Robb last night on Lateline I was waiting for Penny to mention Andrew&#039;s stunt re. the dirty dozen, however it didn&#039;t come up. My theory is that there was no need for her to dip into this extra material as she had Robb on the ropes anyway. This seems to be much like the whole ALP campaign, where they have not laid into the Libs with the heavy artillary because they have known that they were so far ahead. Leave it in the kitty, just in case the polls move.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Watching Penny Wong vs. Ancrew Robb last night on Lateline I was waiting for Penny to mention Andrew&#8217;s stunt re. the dirty dozen, however it didn&#8217;t come up. My theory is that there was no need for her to dip into this extra material as she had Robb on the ropes anyway. This seems to be much like the whole ALP campaign, where they have not laid into the Libs with the heavy artillary because they have known that they were so far ahead. Leave it in the kitty, just in case the polls move.</p>
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		<title>By: Hotlips</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hotlips</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2007 22:46:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2007 22:10:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It at first appeared after Peter Garretts jocular conversation that Labor was going to win the funny moments contest. However Kellys prank coupled with Caroline Overingtons hilarious emails has seen the bunch of clowns that is the Liberal Party take a winning lead. The relief at being in front somewhere is being felt throughout the Liberal heartland.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It at first appeared after Peter Garretts jocular conversation that Labor was going to win the funny moments contest. However Kellys prank coupled with Caroline Overingtons hilarious emails has seen the bunch of clowns that is the Liberal Party take a winning lead. The relief at being in front somewhere is being felt throughout the Liberal heartland.</p>
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		<title>By: Hotlips</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hotlips</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2007 22:10:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s the flyer:

http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/904/islamicpamphletbr1.jpg</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s the flyer:</p>
<p><a href="http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/904/islamicpamphletbr1.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/904/islamicpamphletbr1.jpg</a></p>
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		<title>By: STAR</title>
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		<dc:creator>STAR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2007 22:02:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well the Kelly household has done what Robb could not. This will ensure that Work choices is off the front page for a week or so.

what is that? the Libs do not have a week, only three days.  God, I think the Kelly gang have given every Labor candidate in Australia another 2% plus boost.

I expect after this ,episode the Coalition will become more desperate and start struggling in a bed of quick sand. Each stuff from now on will be reported quite heavily by the MSM because they know this gov. is gone so will report with a bit less bias.

My expectation of a Labor landslide a week ago was slim, now i believe this will be of biblical proportions , a once in a lifetime event, and the Coalition might be lucky to have enough members to form an AFL team.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well the Kelly household has done what Robb could not. This will ensure that Work choices is off the front page for a week or so.</p>
<p>what is that? the Libs do not have a week, only three days.  God, I think the Kelly gang have given every Labor candidate in Australia another 2% plus boost.</p>
<p>I expect after this ,episode the Coalition will become more desperate and start struggling in a bed of quick sand. Each stuff from now on will be reported quite heavily by the MSM because they know this gov. is gone so will report with a bit less bias.</p>
<p>My expectation of a Labor landslide a week ago was slim, now i believe this will be of biblical proportions , a once in a lifetime event, and the Coalition might be lucky to have enough members to form an AFL team.</p>
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		<title>By: john</title>
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		<dc:creator>john</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2007 21:44:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Change to theme a bit- what the hell is Downer doing in Singapore acting as a an Australian Government Minister! The govermnent is in caretaker mode and his ministerial commission is suspended, any agreements he signs up for on behalf of Australia are null and void, quick someone cancel his passport!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Change to theme a bit- what the hell is Downer doing in Singapore acting as a an Australian Government Minister! The govermnent is in caretaker mode and his ministerial commission is suspended, any agreements he signs up for on behalf of Australia are null and void, quick someone cancel his passport!</p>
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		<title>By: GS</title>
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		<dc:creator>GS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2007 21:40:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jackie Kelly on Ch9&#039;s panel?!?  :) With the pamplet-gate, will it be a &quot;Chaser-style moment&quot; for her?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jackie Kelly on Ch9&#8217;s panel?!?  <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  With the pamplet-gate, will it be a &#8220;Chaser-style moment&#8221; for her?</p>
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